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移除 Google 集成的 Chromium 修改版
Modifications to Google Chromium for removing Google integration
2016 — 2020,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
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ungoogled-chromium 是 Chromium 的一个开源修改版本/补丁集,目标是移除或禁用 Chromium 中与 Google 集成相关的组件和服务,让浏览器尽可能“去 Google 化”,同时保留 Chromium 的基本界面与功能。项目在 GitHub 上长期维护,围绕它展开的讨论既涉及隐私与自主性,也涉及分支安全、二进制分发和浏览器生态垄断。
为什么经久不衰:它长期回应了人们对 Chrome/Chromium 与 Google 深度绑定、以及浏览器市场被单一实现主导的担忧,至今仍是讨论“去 Google 化”浏览器与隐私自主性的重要参考项目。
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质疑匿名二进制分发和长期维护/可验证性,提醒用户注意供应链风险。
移除 Google 的二进制组件只是缓解一个问题,但换成一个匿名 GitHub 用户提供的完整二进制包,可能引入新问题。能否多介绍项目:是否长期维护(很多有前途的 Chromium 分支热一阵就消失)、是否接受贡献、二进制发行版如何构建以便校验 checksum、能否给 Google 的 Chromium 版本打 tag 以便验证?
nikcub查看英文原文
Removing Google's binary blobs is mitigating one issue, but replacing it with an entire binary blog from an anonymous github user might be introducing new ones. On that note - can you tell us more about the project? ie. if you plan on keeping this updated long terms (i've watched a lot of promising chromium forks fade after an initial big splash), what your plans are, if you'll you accept contributions, how the binary distributions are built so we can verify the checksums, if you can tag the Chromium releases from Google so they can be verified, etc. I've had the idea of a chromium fork with privacy enhancements in the back of my mind for a while now (turns out a lot of people have) specifically to replace Tor Browser and/or have a lighter browser (without canvas, webgl, webrtc etc.) with better defaults (ie. no hardware access, location, notifications, cookies, history, etc.) for opening links, private browsing etc[1]. This may be a good base to work on - assuming you want to go beyond just "de-googlify" [1] I think there is a real need for an alternate browser that is lightweight[2] and has stricter privacy and security controls - with proper user segregation (ie. you really don't want to open random links from social media in the same browser session as where you're logging into your primary accounts). [2] ie. do to Chrome/Firefox what Firefox originally did to Netscape - and Chrome would be the better foundation to work on
项目不只是去品牌,还按维护者偏好改开关,不宜盲目推荐给他人。
“它还包括一些改动”这句话让我觉得这不是一个可以安全推荐给别人的分支。它不只是发布一个去掉品牌标识的公开 Chrome 产品,还加入了“编辑性”的开关调整,打开或关闭各种设置。使用风险自负。
floatingatoll查看英文原文
“It also features some changes” says to me that this isn’t a safe fork to recommend to others. Rather than simply releasing a de-badged instance of the public Chrome product, it additionally includes “editorial” comments in the form of turning various switches on or off. Use at your own risk.
认为去 Google 化 Chromium 仍受 Google 控制的 Chromium 生态影响,无法真正打破垄断。
用“去 Google 化”的 Chromium,仍然是在为 Chrome 的垄断和 Google 对 Web 的主导地位添砖加瓦。Chromium 虽开源,但开发由 Google 控制;没有同等资源,就做不出能让普通用户受益的实质分支。这是个陷阱,应该改用 Firefox、Safari 甚至 Edge——Chrome 就是新的 IE6。
bad_user查看英文原文
If you're using "Ungoogled" Chromium, you're still contributing to Chrome's monopoly and you're still helping Google's dominance of the web. Chromium may be open source, but its development is controlled by Google. Unless you have Google-like resources available, you won't be able to create a meaningful fork that your less technically savvy users can benefit from. "Ungoogled" Chromium is a trap. Use another browser. Use Firefox. Use Safari. Heck, use Edge (aka the new IExplorer). Because lets stop beating around the bush ... Chrome is the new IExplorer 6.
项目有价值,但更该警惕网站只适配 Chrome 的生态垄断和跨浏览器测试缺失。
开头不错,但我认为需要扭转 Chrome 成为开发者唯一目标浏览器的趋势;每天都有更多网站不必要地只兼容 Chrome,扩展还不算。比起别的,这更能决定 Chrome 会不会成为这个十年的 IE。跳过 IE 测试是一回事,跳过 Firefox 测试是罪过。
nathancahill查看英文原文
Great start. Although I think we need to reverse the trend of Chrome becoming the single browser web developers use. The amount of sites that unnecessarily[0] work only in Chrome is growing daily. And that's not even counting browser extensions. I think this, more than anything else, will determine if Chrome becomes the "Internet Explorer"[1] of this decade or not. Skipping testing in IE is one thing. Skipping testing in Firefox is a sin. [0] Unnecessarily, because cross-browser compatibility isn't hard, simply include CSS prefixes besides -webkit and use standardized JS APIs. [1] Internet Explorer, a term for a closed-source browser that creates non-standard APIs that developers jump on, forcing either users to use that browser, or other browsers to implement the non-standard APIs too.
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