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台风级潜艇内部照片
Photos from inside a Typhoon class submarine
2017 — 2020,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
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这组照片来自俄罗斯潜艇爱好者博客,展示了台风级战略核潜艇的内部:健身房、游泳池、车床、游戏机等设施一应俱全。台风级是苏联建造的史上最大潜艇,照片记录了它退役封存后的真实面貌。
为什么经久不衰:冷战巅峰工程的真实内部影像极为罕见,既满足对潜艇技术的好奇,也让人直观感受那个时代的军备竞赛规模。
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亲历者回忆:当年美军把台风级视为极难对付的可怕对手
80年代我在一个研究实验室工作时,台风级是重点研究对象。我的第一个任务是测试能命中潜艇同一位置的鱼雷——因为台风级的双层艇壳是钛制的,Mark 46 鱼雷打上去艇员可能都察觉不到(夸张了,但意思你懂)。第二个任务是处理拖曳声呐阵列数据,寻找藏在海底峡谷里的台风级。现在看到它封存着任游客参观,觉得很好笑——当年我们是真的怕这东西。
whistlesnort查看英文原文
As a young pup back in the 80s I worked at a research lab that was obsessed with the Typhoon submarine. My first assignment was to test torpedos that could hit the same spot on a submarine. Why? Because the double-hulls of the Typhoon were made of titanium. A Mark 46 could hit it and I doubt the crew would even notice (exaggeration, of course, but you get my point). My second assignment was to write programs that processed data from a towed sonar array. We were looking for ways to find Typhoon submarines hiding in underwater canyons. It is funny to me now to see a Typhoon mothballed with tourists crawling all over it. We were honestly scared of this thing.
冷战双方拥有完全独立的技术供应链,各自造出顶尖装备
最让我震撼的是,当年曾存在两条几乎完全独立的技术供应链。美国和苏联都造出了极其先进的设备——雷达、声呐、计算机等等——从“从山里挖矿石”到造出计算机,供应链几乎毫无重叠。
dmd查看英文原文
A thing that really strikes me as extraordinary is how there used to be two almost entirely independent technological supply chains. Americans and soviets both built extremely advanced equipment, with radar and sonar and computers and all that and literally from "digging ore out of the mountain" to making a computer there was almost no overlap in supply chain.
军备竞赛浪费了顶尖人才,被限制军备的战败国反而发展更好
让我印象深刻的是各方在毁灭性怪物上浪费的巨量资源和工程人才。整整几代最聪明的人被拉去建造政治威慑工具,从未使用,如今锈蚀殆尽。而战败的日本和德国被排除在军备竞赛之外,反而建立起强大的工业能力,到冷战末期主导了许多行业。
quelsolaar查看英文原文
What is striking to me is the enormous waste of resources and engineering talent that went in to destructive monstrosities on all sides. I remember having the same reaction visiting a UK air museum seeing the Vulcan up-close for the first time. Entire generations of the best an brightest roped in to build political brinkmanship tools, never to be used that are now rusting away. Meanwhile, Japan and Germany, the loosers of WW2 that was meant to be kept down, by not allowing them to participate in the arms race built up formidable industrial capacity, that came to dominate many sectors by the end of the cold war.
艇内设施出乎意料地齐全,甚至有游泳池和街机
我喜欢它居然有一台全尺寸车床(潜艇上这常见吗?)。还有游泳池、苏打水机和1980年的苏联潜艇街机游戏——那可是我当年最喜欢的街机。
rdtsc查看英文原文
I like that it has a full size lathe (how common is that for subs?). Well and a swimming pool, seltzer water dispenser and the 1980 Soviet sub arcade. I remember that was my favorite arcade game too.
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