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一次又一次被重新发现的经典。

同一个链接,相隔一年以上,一次又一次被人重新发现、再次冲上 Hacker News 首页。能经受住这种时间检验的,大多是值得一读再读的文章。每篇附中文标题,讨论最热的那些再加上中文导读和高赞评论翻译。

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上首页次数最多、而且有中文导读的 30 篇。时间轴上每个黑点是一次上首页,空心点是一次没冲上去的投稿。

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    1. 01

      合并同一个链接

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部链接投稿,把 http/https、www、跟踪参数等写法不同的同一篇文章合并成一条。

    2. 02

      只留经得起时间的

      同一链接至少两次拿到 50 分以上(约等于上首页),而且两次相隔一年以上;再由 AI 剔除状态页、产品首页和新闻事件。

    3. 03

      写导读、译评论

      上首页次数最多的 2,000 篇配上中文导读、"为什么经久不衰",并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。导读由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    工具与资源github.com

    Hacker News 未公开的功能与行为

    Hacker News's Undocumented Features and Behaviors

    4次上首页
    4年跨度
    1,471累计得分
    750条评论

    2018 — 2022,它一次次回到首页

    黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。

    导读

    这是一个由 minimaxir 维护的 GitHub 仓库,系统整理了 Hacker News 未公开文档化的功能与行为,例如投票规则、评论分数下限、影子封禁机制、251 Karma 可自定义顶栏颜色等隐藏细节。该页面多次登上 HN 首页,连 dang 本人也在评论区补充了历次讨论的链接。

    为什么经久不衰:它揭示了 HN 这个互联网上最长寿社区之一的内部运作逻辑,对理解社区治理和产品设计细节仍有独特参考价值。

    关键词 Hacker News社区机制隐藏功能内容审核

    HN 评论精选

    补充了多条关于投票、编辑和回复限制的隐藏规则

    再补充几条:评论发布 24 小时后不能再踩(点赞无时限);不能踩自己评论的直接回复;大约一小时后不能撤销投票或编辑评论;对回复你评论的人,回复按钮会在一段时间内被隐藏,且嵌套越深限制越久。

    colanderman查看英文原文

    A few more of interest: • You cannot downvote a comment after 24 hours have passed. (There is no time limit for upvotes.) • You cannot downvote comments which are direct replies to your own. (There is no restriction to downvote further descendants.) • You cannot unvote/undown a comment after (I think) one hour has passed. • You cannot reply to a reply to one of your comments for a certain number of minutes, which increases based on some relation with nesting depth. However, the reply link appears sooner on the permalink of such comments than it does from the story page. • You cannot edit a comment after (I think) one hour has passed.

    称赞 HN 在普遍关闭评论区的时代仍维持了高质量的讨论氛围

    越来越多网站正在关闭评论区,比如最近的国家评论和《大西洋月刊》,因为无力承担审核成本。HN 却保持了互联网上最文明的评论区之一,即使讨论特朗普等争议话题也很少沦为政治互喷。为 dang 和 sctb 点赞!

    rweba查看英文原文

    More and more websites are getting rid of user comments on their websites. Just in the last couple of months the National Review and The Atlantic have got rid of comments. In simple terms they couldn't keep up with comment moderation and were not able or willing to invest in enough moderators. So I have to give credit to HN to having one of the most civil comment sections on the internet. What I like about HN is that the comments VERY RARELY descend into the inevitable political sniping that seems to happen almost everywhere else on the internet, even when discussing controversial topics like Trump, and even the percentage of snarky and dismissive comments is kept pretty low. So, keep it up, dang and sctb!

    亲身经历影子封禁机制,同时盛赞 dang 的快速负责回复

    我最近因多次提交个人博客文章被影子封禁。奇怪的是登录时能在 newest 页看到自己的帖子,登出后却看不到。我以为是 HN 出了故障便发邮件询问,dang 在三分钟内就回了非常详尽的答复。虽然不解为何不告知封禁原因,但 dang 的响应速度和用心令人佩服。

    shubik22查看英文原文

    This is a really useful list, thanks for putting this together. I was briefly shadow-banned a month or two ago, due to a few submissions of posts on my personal blog from this account (and not much else). What was odd was that when I looked at the "newest" page while logged in, I saw my post on HN but when I looked when not logged in, the post didn't show up. I didn't know shadowbanning existed and thought there was some kind of issue with HN, so I emailed hn@ycombinator.com. dang@ sent back an incredibly thorough and thoughtful reply literally 3 minutes later (this was at 7:15 p.m. on a week night). So while I find it a little odd to 1) shadowban someone without telling them why and 2) intentionally obfuscate the fact that they've been banned by making it seem to them like their submission was successfully submitted, I was really amazed by the care and efficiency of dang's response. So thanks dang!

    指出 -4 只是显示下限,实际扣分仍在继续

    关于'评论分数下限是 -4'的说法只对了一半:据非官方 FAQ,-4 只是显示下限,实际负票仍在继续累计,只是不再显示。这也是如今人们更频繁删除被踩评论以止损的原因。

    weinzierl查看英文原文

    > There is no upper limit on the score of a comment, but the minimum score is -4 points. According to the The Unofficial Hacker News FAQ [1] this is only partly correct, but I don‘t feel like testing it. [1] > I’m at -4 for a comment and still my karma is dropping, how come? > HN is ‘subtle’ in that not everything always is what it seems. Votes are not always counted and those votes that are counted are not always displayed. So even though your vote count for that comment shows as -4, in actual fact it may be much lower. Take your lumps, analyze why you got those downvotes and if you feel they were justified then try to do better in the future. A side effect of the votes still being counted past -4 seems to be that people tend to delete their comments with a much higher frequency than in the past to cap the damage to their karma. https://jacquesmattheij.com/the-unofficial-hn-faq#badcomment

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