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Aaron Swartz 诉美国政府案
Aaron Swartz v. United States
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本文讨论了 2011 年 Aaron Swartz 因在 MIT 大规模下载 JSTOR 学术论文而被美国联邦政府起诉一事。文章质疑司法部为何以重罪起诉一个本质上是违反服务条款的行为,认为政府可能借机打压 Swartz 或扩大自身权力。
为什么经久不衰:它记录了数字时代信息自由与司法权力边界之争的标志性事件,Swartz 案至今仍是讨论计算机犯罪法(如 CFAA)滥用和学术付费墙问题的经典案例。
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批评社区为起诉辩护,指出各机构立场荒谬
整件事让我很不安。在 Hacker News 上居然有这么多人说“他确实在技术上犯了罪……”。是的,他违反了某些服务条款,但为公共知识而破解点击协议、在 MIT“入侵”电脑就要坐牢?这实在令人难以接受。MIT:恶作剧式的物理黑客可以,但别想批量收割全世界的知识,否则司法部会像大锤一样砸下来。JSTOR:全世界的知识都在这里,只要你别想全部访问。司法部:我们整你只是因为我们可以。
pmb查看英文原文
This whole thing weirds me out. Here we are on Hacker News, and yet there is a super-large contingent of people going "Well, he DID technically commit a victimless crime...". So yes - he did do something that was against some terms of service. But jail time? For breaking a clickthrough "license" and computer hacking at MIT in the service of public knowledge? This sucks unutterably. MIT: Playful physical hacks okay, but don't try to mass harvest the knowledge of the world or the DOJ will come down on you like a sledgehammer. JSTOR: All the world's knowledge, as long as you don't try to access all of it. DOJ: We'll break you just because we can (or for other reasons that we are not stating). Hacker News: Well, they do have a point - he did access semi-public data in a non-approved way, and he had to plug into the network in a strange way to do it.
核心问题不是他是否违法,而是政府为何如此重手
我不明白为什么大家把学术期刊获取问题扯进来。付费墙确实荒谬,但这与此案无关。没人否认 Swartz 犯了轻罪,“信息应当自由”不能改变犯罪事实。真正令人震惊的是政府的反应——它似乎在借这件事达到自己的目的,而非维护法治。司法部是想扩权?是杀鸡儆猴?还是 Swartz 捅了某个马蜂窝惹恼了高层?
ender7查看英文原文
I don't understand why people are bringing issues of the availability of scientific journalism into this. I agree that the prices and paywalls involves are ridiculous and a bad idea for a variety of reasons, but that seems orthogonal to the issue here. I don't think anyone is denying that Swartz committed a (possible series of) minor crimes. Claiming that "information should be free" doesn't stop them from being crimes. What's shocking is the response from the government, which appears to be using this incident for its own purposes rather than to preserve the rule of law. No one seems to really be asking why this is happening, and I think that is by far the more interesting question. Is the justice department trying to expand its reach, as the article suggests? Is this a deterrent for future "hackers"? Has one of Swartz's numerous hornet nest-kickings pissed off someone high up, who wants him removed from the playing field?
认为此案本应是民事纠纷,检察官应被问责
我希望这事能在国会上被提起。美国根本不该介入此事——这本该是 JSTOR、MIT 和 Aaron 之间的民事纠纷(真要追究的话,最多算轻罪非法侵入)。联邦检察官 Carmen M. Ortiz 应该被叫到国会面前作出解释。
rdl查看英文原文
I hope this comes up in Congress. The United States never should have been a party to this -- it should have been a civil issue between JSTOR, MIT, and Aaron. (or criminal misdemeanor trespassing if they really wanted that.) Carmen M. Ortiz, US Attorney, should be called before Congress to account for this.
将起诉与 Swartz 的自杀联系起来,视其为压迫的一部分
如果你看完这篇文章仍无法把 Swartz 荒谬的刑事起诉和他的自杀联系起来,或者仍认为自杀主要与其他原因有关的可能性与起诉相当,那你或许该听听 Jacob Appelbaum 最近在 C3 的演讲,他详述了自己因与维基解密的关联而遭受的国家压迫。
mgunes查看英文原文
If you are unable to make the link between Swartz's absurd criminal indictment and his suicide in the light of this post, and/or if after reading it, you still view the possibility of his suicide being primarily linked to causes other than the indictment as on par with it being linked to the indictment, you should perhaps hear Jacob Appelbaum's recent C3 talk [1], where he details the state oppression he, his mentally ill mother, and his various acquaintances have been under due to his link with Wikileaks. [1] http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4977338
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