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一位富士康工人的诗与短暂一生
The poetry and brief life of a Foxconn worker
2014 — 2021,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
导读
这篇页面收录了富士康工人许立志的诗作。他在深圳富士康流水线上打工,2014年自杀身亡,年仅24岁。他的诗以流水线、加班、螺丝钉等意象书写打工者的生存状态,其中《一颗螺丝掉在地上》等作品在他死后广为流传。
为什么经久不衰:它让流水线工人的内心世界以诗歌的形式被看见,多年后重读仍提醒我们关注庞大制造业机器背后具体的人。
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诗中'螺丝坠落无人注意'的意象预示了作者自身的绝望处境
读这些诗时,《一颗螺丝掉在地上》尤其打动我。这首诗写于他自杀前八个月,诗的语境似乎与他当时的心境相通——主要是那句'有个人掉在地上'却无人听见。
docbrown查看英文原文
Reading through the poems, one in particular stood out to me, ‘A screw Fell to the Ground.’ While it was done eight months before his suicide, the context seems to be relatable to how he may have been feeling—mostly the sound of “someone” plunging and nobody hearing. — 《一颗螺丝掉在地上》 "A Screw Fell to the Ground" 一颗螺丝掉在地上 A screw fell to the ground 在这个加班的夜晚 In this dark night of overtime 垂直降落,轻轻一响 Plunging vertically, lightly clinking 不会引起任何人的注意 It won’t attract anyone’s attention 就像在此之前 Just like last time 某个相同的夜晚 On a night like this 有个人掉在地上 When someone plunged to the ground -- 9 January 2014
用数据质疑'富士康自杀潮'的普遍叙事,认为其自杀率可能低于社会平均水平
初步搜索了一下,富士康似乎在最糟糕的2010年,约一百万工人中有14人自杀。而中国总体自杀率约为每十万人22人。这样看富士康的自杀率明显更低,对吗?还是我算错了?
skizm查看英文原文
According to some initial Googling, it looks like Foxconn had one year where 14 people committed suicide out of nearly one million workers (2010, their worst year for suicides). The general suicide rate in China is about 22 in 100,000. Seems like the Foxconn suicide rate is significantly lower, right? Or am I looking at the numbers wrong?
感谢译者的工作,让这些诗超越了语言和地域的界限
这些诗非常出色。我感到幸运的是,有人愿意花时间把它们翻译出来,分享到互联网上,让它们能被更广泛的读者看到。
sleazy_b查看英文原文
These are some remarkable poems. I feel lucky that someone took the time to translate and share these poems on the internet where they can find a wider audience.
认为应把问题归因于抑郁症等心理健康因素,而非简单归咎于雇主
自杀是悲剧,人们应尽力预防。但自杀总会发生在人群中的一部分人身上,通常源于抑郁症。我们不应忽视一个事实:例如美国的自杀率比富士康高一个数量级。富士康雇员超过120万,自杀数字与其他较小的公司相比自然显得高。工作条件确实艰苦,公司也可以投入更多资源帮助有需要的人,但不能把'抑郁症'归咎于雇主,把注意力从心理健康这一根本问题上转移开是不负责任的。
CognitiveLens查看英文原文
Suicide is a tragedy and people should always do what they can to prevent it. However, it is also something that will always occur in some portion of the population, typically as the result of depression. We should not ignore the fact that the suicide rate in, for example, the United States is an order of magnitude higher than it is at Foxconn. Foxconn employs over 1.2 million people, so the number of suicides will appear high compared with other, smaller companies. Working conditions are tough, the cultural environment is difficult for people with depression (which can be said for almost every culture), and the company could invest more resources to provide help to those in need. But we cannot 'fix' depression, and it's irresponsible to divert attention from the underlying mental health issue to blame the employer for all the employees who have committed suicide.
通过重译《冲突》一诗,指出作者与社会之间的疏离感,并批评英译丢失了中文的含蓄
第二首诗其实透露了不少关于他处境的信息。中译英很难,会丢失很多东西,我尽量用散文体翻译以减少损失:'他们都说/我是个话很少的孩子/对此我并不否认/实际上/我说与不说/都会跟这个社会/发生冲突'。我对译本的主要不满是'冲突'这个词非常直白,而中文原文要含蓄得多。很明显,他想从社会得到的东西与现实之间存在巨大鸿沟,这在中国相当普遍。
xarien查看英文原文
The second poem actually gives quite a bit of insight regarding his situation. Translation from Chinese to English is hard and much is lost in translation. I'll translate the following to prose as to minimize what's lost in the translation: 《冲突》 "Conflict" 他们都说 They all say 我是个话很少的孩子 I'm a child of few words 对此我并不否认 This I don't deny 实际上 But actually 我说与不说 Whether I speak or not 都会跟这个社会 With this society I'll still 发生冲突 Conflict "They've always told me that I was a quiet child. I do not deny that fact, however, whether I speak up or not doesn't alter the fact that I feel incompatible with this society." The main beef I have with the translation is that conflict is a very explicit word whereas Chinese is much more implicit. It's pretty obvious that there was a large disconnect with what he wanted out of society vs reality. This is unfortunately quite common in China. Being someone who grew up reading Chinese novels extensively, I can attest that the culture itself is heavily romanticized and when compared to the modern subversion influenced by the communist party, it's figuratively night and day.
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