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如何成为一名优秀的 C 程序员(2011)
To become a good C programmer (2011)
2016 — 2021,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
导读
这是 Fabien Sanglard 2011 年写的一份“如何成为优秀 C 程序员”的学习清单,主要围绕经典书籍、参考资料和实践路径展开。作者和评论者都认为清单多年后仍大体适用,并在讨论中补充了 C99、POSIX、SYSV ABI、C FAQ 和阅读开源代码等建议。
为什么经久不衰:它把经过时间检验的 C 学习资源集中在一起,且评论区持续补充现代系统编程实践,因此十几年后仍有参考价值。
HN 评论精选
经典书单仍然可靠,但应重视优秀网站并至少采用 C99。
90 年代大多数严肃的 C 程序员都知道这些书,它们是多数开发者依赖和查阅的核心书目,都是好书。我不同意“没有网站比得上好书,也没有好书比得上反汇编输出”这句话:今天有很多优秀网站,也覆盖了书里找不到的冷门主题。最后,我认为应该越过 C89,至少用 C99;2011 年时这不太现实,但今天多数项目没理由不用 C99 的改进。
ternaryoperator查看英文原文
In the 90s, most seriouc C programmers knew about these books. They were the core books most devs relied on and referred to. They're all good. I disagree with this comment: "No website is as good as a good book. And no good book is as good as a disassembly output." There are many websites today that are excellent. And there are many websites that cover obscure topics not found in books. Finally, I think it's important to move past C89 to at least C99. I realize in 2011 (the date of this post), that was less feasible. But today, there is little reason for most projects not use the advances found in C99.
补充 POSIX 系统接口和 SYSV x64 ABI 两个关键系统编程资源。
可惜作者没有列出 POSIX 系统接口,它对我个人帮助极大(链接)。也可以用 DuckDuckGo 的 !posix 快捷搜索。另一个在深入 musl libc 或写汇编时极其有用的东西是 SYSV x64 ABI(链接)。
fao_查看英文原文
It's unfortunate he doesn't list the POSIX system interface, which has personally become an absolute boon: https://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/ You can search it using duckduckgo with !posix, too. Something else I've found infinitely useful when digging into musl libc or doing assembly programming, is the SYSV x64 ABI: https://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/elf/x86_64-SysV-psABI.pdf
comp.lang.c FAQ 是进阶理解 C 边界情况的好资源。
我觉得通过 K&R 或类似书掌握基础后,理解 C 的古怪边界情况和怪癖的最好方式就是通读 comp.lang.c FAQ 页面(链接)。它相当全面,难度正好适合“不是完全新手、但还不熟悉细节”的阶段,而这种阶段的资源其实很难找。
simplicio查看英文原文
I found that, after learning the basics of the language via K&R or a similar book, the best way to get a good understanding of C and its weird corner cases and eccentricities is just to go through the comp.lang.c FAQ page. http://c-faq.com/index.html It's pretty comprehensive, and I found the level was pretty good for a "not total newbie, but still not familiar with the subtilties" level that can be kind of hard to find resources for.
读开源代码、提交补丁和写玩具 OS 是理解 C 实践与设计原因的有效路径。
我刚学 C 时读完了大多数“标准”书,对基础挺有信心,但真正写 C 时总觉得自己写不出好的、实用的代码。于是我开始翻看 gtk、musl libc、Linux、OpenRC、gcc 等流行开源软件的源码,给其中几个提交修复,并在邮件列表上请求代码审查,直到觉得自己还行。后来仍觉知识不足,就通过写一个类似 MINIX 的玩具操作系统来学习现代 x86 内部机制(我甚至一度让 X 跑起来了)。虽然仍不是最好的程序员,但这大大帮助我理解 C 为什么这样设计。
joshumax查看英文原文
When I first started out with C (and back at that time it was the first programmimg language I started learning) I read a majority of the "standard" books and felt rather confident in my understanding of the basics, but when it came to actually writing C, I never felt like I was writing good, pragmatic code. So I started combing through the sources of popular FOSS software like gtk, musl libc, Linux, OpenRC, gcc, etc, submitting bugfixes for a few of them, and asking for code reviews on mailing lists until I finally thought that I was doing okay. I still felt like my knowledge was lacking though, so I decided to learn the internals of the modern x86 machine by writing a hobby OS resembling MINIX (I think I even got X working at one point). Despite still not being the best programmer, it really helped with my understanding of why things are done in C like they are.
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