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如今电脑上几乎所有操作在感知上都比 1983 年更慢（2017）
Almost everything on computers is perceptually slower than it was in 1983 (2017)
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这篇 2017 年的推文串认为，尽管计算机硬件比 1983 年快得多，日常操作的感知速度却常常更慢：启动、界面响应和网络应用被层层抽象、动画、后台检查与网络依赖拖累。作者批评现代软件为了通用性和复杂功能牺牲即时反馈，让交互变得不可预测、难以学习。
为什么经久不衰：它把“硬件越来越快，体验却没更顺滑”这个直觉讲得尖锐又好笑，因而每隔几年都能引发共鸣和争论，今天仍值得拿来审视现代软件的复杂度与交互代价。
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老机器启动秒开，现代系统却要几分钟，反映行业对启动延迟和用户时间的漠视。
我有一台 Atari ST，前阵子拿出来测试。从开机到出现可用鼠标的桌面不到一秒，从硬盘启动也许只多一秒；我反复按重启键，惊叹它启动这么快。如今我用的多数机器却要几分钟。系统确实更大更复杂，但几分钟？这是行业懒惰、对用户尊重的集体放弃，也是“再多一两秒没关系”的麻痹心态。我还听说某信用卡公司曾因 IBM 系统启动太慢，设法拿到操作系统源码，删掉启动路径里的无用代码，把重启时间大幅缩短。
kabdib查看英文原文
I had an Atari ST in a closet, and decided to get rid of it a while back. I pulled it out to test it. The boot sequence, all the way to a desktop with a mouse that moves, takes less than one second. If you boot from a hard drive, maybe another second. For a while I just kept hitting the reset button, marveling at the speed at which the ST came up. Most machines I work with these days take minutes to get rolling. Okay, I know that systems are bigger and more complicated now; buses have to be probed and trained, RAM has to be checked, network stuff needs to happen, etc., etc., but minutes? This is just industry laziness, a distributed abdication of respect for users, a simple piling-on of paranoia and "one or two more seconds won't matter, will it?" Story time. A cow-orker of mine use to work at a certain very large credit card company. They were using IBM systems to do their processing, and downtime was very, very, very important to them. One thing that irked them was the boot time for the systems, again measured in minutes; the card company's engineers were pretty sure the delays were unecessary, and asked IBM to remove them. Nope. "Okay, give us the source code to the OS and we'll do that work." Answer: "No!" So the CC company talked to seven very large banks, the seven very large banks talked to IBM, and IBM humbly delivered the source code to the OS a few days later. The CC company ripped out a bunch of useless gorp in the boot path and got the reboot time down to a few tens of seconds. When every second is worth money, you can get results.
批评文章以偏概全，忽视现代搜索等巨大进步和旧系统的特定局限。
把这说成是 1983 年工作方式的玫瑰色滤镜都算轻描淡写。反例：1983 年输入两个搜索词，其中一个拼错或记错，按 F3：无结果，花十分钟大海捞针，最后放弃并亲自去找。现在输入两个略有错误的词，大多数时候它知道你要什么，甚至本地纠正拼写，一秒内给出准确结果。30 多年前有些东西更快，但绝大多数时候绝对不是；这个例子只是少数例外，那是因为用例极其特定、局限在某个平台，而古怪反直觉的界面充当护栏。文章对 UI 被奇怪调优有合理观点，但对速度变差的执念近乎堂吉诃德式。
AStellersSeaCow查看英文原文
To call this rose-tinted glasses when considering how things worked in 1983 is a massive understatement. A counterexample: in 1983, enter two search terms, one of them slightly misspelled or misremembered, hit f3: "no results", spend 10 minutes trying to find the needle in the haystack, give up and physically search for the thing yourself. Enter two search terms slightly incorrectly now: no of the time it will know exactly what you want, may even autocorrect a typo locally, get your accurate search results in a second. When things were faster 30+ years ago (and they absolutely were NOT the vast majority of the time, this example cherry picked one of the few instances that they were), it was because the use case was hyperspecific, hyperlocalized to a platform, and the fussy and often counterintuitive interfaces served as guard rails. The article has absolutely valid points on ways UIs have been tuned in odd ways (often to make them usable, albeit suboptimally, for the very different inputs of touch and mouse), but the obsession about speed being worse now borders on quixotic. Software back then was, at absolute best, akin to a drag racer - if all you want to do it move 200 meters in one predetermined direction then sometimes is was fine. Want to go 300 meters, or go in a slightly different direction, or don't know how to drive a drag racer? Sorry, need to find a different car/course/detailed instruction manual.
作者承认细节有误但坚持核心论点，批评技术人护短、忽视整体用户体验退化。
作为两年前喝醉时写下这篇、并认为其中 30%-50% 客观错误的原作者，我觉得每五个月就有人转到这里、大家又吵一架非常搞笑。很多细节完全不准确，但论点仍然成立，是电脑人思维想攻击细节，却不愿退后看整体：现在用电脑是一团乱麻，没有东西完全按你意愿工作，没有东西可预测，没有东西可学习。我猜这是因为程序员等电脑人把“在电脑上”本身当成满足目标，有时对现实有正面副作用；而其他人只是斯德哥尔摩综合征，早就不再想象更好的体验。
gravislizard查看英文原文
As the OP who wrote this while drunk two years ago and thinks that about 30-50% of it is objectively wrong, it's extremely funny to me that every five months someone reposts it here and everyone gets in a fight about it again. Many of the details are entirely inaccurate - the thesis is still completely valid, and it's Computer Person Thinking that wants to attack the details while refusing to stand back and look at the overall picture, which is that using computers is now an incredibly messy experience where nothing quite does what you want, nothing can be predicted, nothing can be learned. I hypothesize that this is because programmers and other various Computer People consider "being on the computer" to be a satisfying goal in itself that sometimes has positive side effects in the real world, while everyone else simply has stockholm syndrome and has long since given up on even imagining a better experience.
批评文章挑拣坏例子、浪漫化旧时代，忽视现代可用性和易用性的大进步。
这篇又来了，带着它那些荒谬的咆哮式例子。“这个对文本进行文本搜索的程序，比一个完整渲染、交互式、覆盖全世界、道路精确到米级的地图快得多也简单得多。”废话，真的吗？别逗了。是的，一些很流行的应用 UX 很差，但一些应用 UX 极好。挑坏例子、忽略好例子来证明观点很无聊，也不反映行业实际。这些文章深情地只记得速度，却总忘记当年的挫败，或把它们重新想象成我们珍视的东西。还记得 autoexec.bat 吗？为让一个程序跑起来没完没了地配置？输入不完全符合预期时电脑直接撂挑子？硬件兼容问题及其对稳定性的影响？装电脑要花数小时做功课？我记得，当时并不好玩，它妨碍你做想做的事，不是成人礼，是巨大的麻烦。所以是的，现在有些东西更慢，我也想更快；但我也不用再花整个周末给我妈装电脑和打印机，不用教她神秘命令才能用基本功能。即插即用和可用性确实发生了；虽然感觉更慢，电脑现在向更广的人群开放。
hoorayimhelping查看英文原文
This post again with its ridiculous ranting examples. "This text searching program that searches text against text is way faster and simpler than a fully rendered, interactive map of the entire world with accurate roads and precision at the foot / meter level." No. Shit, really? Get out of town. Yes, some very popular apps have bad UX. But some apps have incredible UX. Cherry picking the bad ones while ignoring the good ones to prove a point is boring and not reflective of the actual industry. These posts fondly remember just the speed, but always seem to forget the frustrations, or re-imagine them to be something we treasured. Remember autoexec.bat files? Remember endless configuration to get one program working? Remember the computer just throwing its hands up and giving up when you gave it input that wasn't exactly what it expected? Remember hardware compatibility issues and how badly it affected system stability? Remember when building a computer required work and research and took hours? I do, and it wasn't fun then, it was a detriment to doing what you wanted. It wasn't a rite of passage, it was a huge pain in the ass. So yeah, things are slower now, and I wanna go fast. But I also don't need to spend an entire weekend setting up a PC and a printer for my mom anymore either. I don't need to teach her arcane commands to get basic functionality out of her machine. Plug and play and usability happened, and while things feel slower, computers are now open to a much wider audience and are much more usable now. These posts always have a slight stench of elitism disguised as disappointment.
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