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六堂课的教师(1991)
The Six-Lesson Schoolteacher (1991)
2008 — 2018,它一次次回到首页
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导读
这是纽约市年度教师 John Taylor Gatto 1991 年的著名演讲/文章,他总结自己三十年教学生涯中真正教给学生的六堂课:让人变得服从、等待指令、依赖他人评判等。文章尖锐批判学校制度本质上是在训练顺从的劳动力,而非培养独立思考的人。
为什么经久不衰:它对学校制度的批判跨越三十年仍引发激烈讨论,无论你认同与否,都促使人重新思考教育的真正目的。
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推荐作者的同主题著作《Dumbing Us Down》
这篇文章的作者写过一本《愚化我们》,是我读过的最有影响力的教育类书籍之一。
nugget查看英文原文
The author of this piece wrote a book called "Dumbing Us Down" that is one of the most influential books on education I've ever read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dumbing_Us_Down
一线教师视角:控制课堂是现实必需,根源在于双职工家庭无法提供个体关注
“这是对永久底层阶级的训练,这些人永远被剥夺了发现自己独特天赋的机会。”——教过难以管束的七年级学生后,我可以说他说的六件事确实是控制大量孩子所必需的。而你必须控制他们,否则家长会起诉你。真正无解的问题是:如今父母双方都要工作,孩子只能交给一个要照看远多于普通家庭孩子数量的第三方。孩子真正需要的是一对一的关注,但双职工家庭根本给不了。这才是真正的问题所在。
araneae查看英文原文
"This is training for permanent underclasses, people who are to be deprived forever of finding the center of their own special genius. And it is training shaken loose from its original logic: to regulate the poor." Having taught unruly 7th graders, I can tell you that the 6 things he teaches are necessary to control a large number of children. And yes, you need to control them, because otherwise the parents will sue you. The unsolvable problem is that in this day and age, both parents work. It used to be that the mother would take care of the kids, but now they have to be passed off to a third party, who necessarily must take care of several times the number of children found in the average American home. What kids really need- and do best with- is individual attention. There's no way to get that kind of attention with both parents in the workforce; the numbers just don't work out. That's your real problem.
文章令人震撼:若学校为制造顺从工人而生,则整个经济体系都依赖于此
这篇文章让我很受冲击。如果学校真是为了制造不动脑子的工蜂而发明的,那意味着我们信仰的一切——资本主义、规模经济、营销——都建立在制造愚民之上。我们没有学校的替代方案,Gatto 也只提供了阿米什人和蒙德拉贡合作社等少数例子。另外他描述的内战前的美国很有意思:那时雇不到员工,因为人人都有企业家精神,干一两年就自己出去闯了。想想如今创业公司的兴起,颇有轮回的讽刺意味。
shadowsun7查看英文原文
I found this to be very crushing. If school really was invented for the sole purpose of creating a generation of unthinking worker drones, then this means that everything that we believe in - capitalism, the economies of scale, marketing - hinges on the creation of a dumb populace. We have no alternative to school, and John Gatto doesn't offer any other apart from the Amish and the Mondragon Cooperatives (and perhaps homeschooling) - both of them far cries from the economies of scale afforded to the capitalistic society. http://www.cantrip.org/againstschool.html http://www.wtp.org/archive/transcripts/john_taylor_gatto.html On a related note, I find his description of an early America very interesting. He observes that you couldn't get many employees back in the day, before the Civil War - because they were all equally entrepreneurial - meaning that they'll only stick with you for a year or two before striking it out on their own. (Granted, they had slaves, but let's not go there). It makes sense, really - and so I find it mildly ironic that things are coming full circle, what with today's growing trend in startups.
指出 Gatto 的观点与 Illich 的《去学校化社会》一脉相承且同样未获采纳
这听起来很像 Ivan Illich 二十年前在《去学校化社会》中说的东西。他也没能说服那些掌控教育的人。
kwhitefoot查看英文原文
Sounds like much the stuff that Ivan Illich said a couple of decades earlier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deschooling_Society. He didn't convince those in control of education either.
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