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同一个链接,相隔一年以上,一次又一次被人重新发现、再次冲上 Hacker News 首页。能经受住这种时间检验的,大多是值得一读再读的文章。每篇附中文标题,讨论最热的那些再加上中文导读和高赞评论翻译。

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    1. 01

      合并同一个链接

      读取 Hacker News 自 2006 年以来的全部链接投稿,把 http/https、www、跟踪参数等写法不同的同一篇文章合并成一条。

    2. 02

      只留经得起时间的

      同一链接至少两次拿到 50 分以上(约等于上首页),而且两次相隔一年以上;再由 AI 剔除状态页、产品首页和新闻事件。

    3. 03

      写导读、译评论

      上首页次数最多的 2,000 篇配上中文导读、"为什么经久不衰",并精选翻译 HN 高赞评论。导读由 AI 生成,可能有误。

    编程与软件工程scrapingbee.com

    Python 网页抓取入门

    Web Scraping 101 with Python

    2次上首页
    1年跨度
    592累计得分
    208条评论

    2021 — 2022,它一次次回到首页

    黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。

    导读

    这篇 ScrapingBee 的入门文章介绍用 Python 做网页抓取的基本流程和常见工具,适合新手了解从发起请求到提取数据的套路。评论者补充了 pandas.read_html、wget 镜像、Selenium/Playwright 等更实用的做法,也争论了静态解析与无头浏览器的取舍。

    为什么经久不衰:它提供了抓取入门的路线图,而评论区沉淀了多年实战技巧和架构反思,今天读仍有参考价值。

    关键词 Python网页抓取入门教程Selenium

    HN 评论精选

    HTML 表格可直接用 pandas.read_html 一行提取。

    在跳进各种框架之前,如果你的数据恰好存放在 HTML 表格里:import pandas as pd; dfs = pd.read_html(url)。其中 dfs 是 dataframe 数组,页面每个 HTML 表格对应一项。

    philshem查看英文原文

    Before jumping into frameworks, if your data is lucky enough to be stored in an html table: import pandas as pd dfs = pd.read_html(url) Where ‘dfs’ is an array of dataframes - one item for each html table on the page. https://pandas.pydata.org/pandas-docs/stable/reference/api/pandas.read_html.html

    先用 wget 镜像到本地,迭代更快且降低对站点影响。

    分享一个技巧:抓网站数据时,先用 wget 镜像模式把有用页面下载到本地。本地迭代解析快得多,也更不容易误伤网站或引起主机注意。

    VBprogrammer查看英文原文

    One tip I would pass on when trying to scrape data from a website, start by using wget in mirror mode to download the useful pages. It's much faster to iterate on scraping the data once you have it locally. Also, less likely to accidentally kill the site or attract the attention of the host.

    实战中 JS 链接最棘手,Selenium 方案胜出且需去重。

    我曾为律师团队做网站镜像,试过 httrack、无头 Chromium/Selenium 等多种方案。最大的麻烦是处理 JavaScript 链接;最后 Python + Selenium 成了胜出组合,而它是我最后才尝试的。性能上很关键的一点是不要重复访问同一页面,因为页眉页脚里的链接会重复成百上千次。

    cubano查看英文原文

    My last contract job was to build a 100% perfect website mirroring program for a group of lawyers who were interested in building class action lawsuits against some of the more henious scammers out there. I ended up building like 8 versions of it, literally using every PHP and Python library and resource I could find. I tried httrack, php-ultimate-web-scraper (from github), headless chromium. headless selenium, and a few others By far the biggest problem was dealing with JS links...you wouldn't think from the start it would be such a big deal but yet..it was. Selenium with python turned out to be the winning combination, and of course, it was the last one I tried. Also, this is an ideal project to implement recursion altho you have to be careful about exit conditions. One thing that was VERY important for performance was not visiting any page more then once because, obviously, certain links in headers and footers are duped sometimes 100s of times. JS links often made it very difficult to discover the linked page, are certain library calls that were supposed to get this info for you often didn't work. It was a super fun project, and in the end considering I only worked for 2 months, I shipped some decent code that was getting like 98.6% of the pages perfectly. The final presentation was interesting...for some reason my client I think got in his head that I wasn't very good programmer or something, and as we ran thru his list of sample sites expecting my program to error out or incorrectly mirror the site, but it handled all 10 of the sites about perfectly and he was rather flabbergasted because he told me it would have taken him a week hand clicking the site for the mirror but instead the program did them all in under an hour.

    应优先无头浏览器,推荐 Playwright 而非先讲 urllib3/Selenium。

    我认为这篇文章的整体软件架构思路根本是反的。如今大量网页是客户端渲染,应该一开始就选无头方案:启动真实浏览器并自动化操作,和真人使用浏览器无异。若对重度客户端渲染的页面用 urllib3,服务器返回的 HTML 是不完整的。只有较少见的情况下——静态 HTML——才用 urllib3。文章提到 Selenium,但我听说它不是最好;用 Python 的话 Playwright 似乎是最佳选择,由前 Chrome DevTools 团队打造。

    kaycebasques查看英文原文

    I think the overall software architecture approach of this post is fundamentally backwards. Given how much of the web is rendered client-side these days you need to start out with a headless option. Headless means that you fire up a true browser and then automate the actions that you need to perform. It's indistinguishable from a real person using a browser. If you try to use urllib3 on a webpage that does heavy client-side rendering then you're going to get incomplete HTML returned from the server (because the website intends to use JavaScript to complete the rendering of the page). On the more rare occasions when you are dealing with static HTML (i.e. there is no rendering on the client; the HTML returned from the server is the complete content) then you can use something like urllib3. Re: which headless library to use this post mentions Selenium which was one of the first headless libs but from what I've heard probably not the best (in terms of developer experience or reliability or robustness) but that's only hearsay... I've never used Selenium myself. Playwright seems like the best option in town if you want to use Python. Built by the former Chrome DevTools team (meaning those people really know how browser internals work). https://playwright.dev/python/docs/intro

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