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大型石油公司如何误导公众相信塑料会被回收
How Big Oil Misled the Public into Believing Plastic Would Be Recycled
2020 — 2022，它一次次回到首页
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导读
NPR 的调查报道揭露了石油巨头如何通过行业游说和广告，让公众相信塑料可以被回收，而实际上绝大多数塑料从未被真正回收利用。报道指出，回收标志本身也是行业推广的营销手段，目的是让消费者继续购买一次性塑料。
为什么经久不衰：它揭示了塑料回收神话背后的行业操纵，至今仍是理解塑料污染和环保宣传失灵的关键背景。
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回收体系是骗局，环保政策应针对生产者而非消费者
整个回收骗局让我很愤怒。几十年来宣传都是为了环境要回收，但实际上垃圾只是被运到中国，然后倒进了海洋。其实扔进填埋场反而更好，至少能被安全地封存。另一个谎言是填埋场快没地方了，其实土地多得很。和大多数环境问题一样，重点应该放在生产者而不是消费者身上——对塑料使用征税，生产者自然会少用。
bit_logic查看英文原文
The whole recycling scam makes me upset. For decades the message was to recycle for the environment. But it was all just shipped to China and then dumped into the oceans. It actually would've been better if it went to landfills, at least then it's safely contained. Another lie was that we're running out of landfill space, there's so much land out there. Like most environmental issues, the focus should've been on producers not consumers. Tax plastic usage and producers will use less of it.
回收给了人们虚假的环保责任感，掩盖了真正的高消费
我不记得在哪读到的，有一种观点认为回收让人们产生自己在环保的错觉。比如典型的家庭拥有多辆车、住着大郊区房子、开暖气空调、买一堆东西，但因为回收了纸板和玻璃，就觉得自己对环境的影响很小。
x87678r查看英文原文
I can't remember where I read it but there was the view that recycling allows people to think they're environmentally responsible when they aren't. eg the typical family has multiple cars, lives in a big suburban house, has heating/ac buys loads of stuff but recycles their cardboard/glass so thinks their environmental impact is small.
填埋可能比低效的回收更环保
我不觉得把塑料和纸扔进填埋场真的是坏事。每二十年用土和植物盖住再建一个新的就行，只要妥善密封，影响其实很低，甚至还能封存一些二氧化碳。与其在回收上投入大量能源，可能还不如这样。
GhostVII查看英文原文
I'm not convinced that it's actually a bad thing to dump plastic and paper into a landfill. You just cover it up with dirt and plants every 20 years and build a new one, pretty low impact as long as you have it properly sealed off. Even gets rid of some CO2. Probably better than putting lots of energy into recycling when it isn't actually efficient to do so.
应推行生产者责任延伸制度，让厂商承担产品全生命周期责任
真正的解决办法是通过有效监管，比如『生产者责任延伸』制度：让制造商对产品的整个生命周期负责，尤其是回收和最终处置。
ZeroGravitas查看英文原文
Real answer, by preventing effective regulation like: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_producer_responsibility > an environmental protection strategy to reach an environmental objective of a decreased total environmental impact of a product, by making the manufacturer of the product responsible for the entire life-cycle of the product and especially for the take-back, recycling and final disposa
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