科学与数学ourworldindata.org
美国人一生中各年龄段与谁共度时光
Who Americans spend their time with, by age
2020 — 2022,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
导读
Our World in Data 用美国时间使用调查数据绘制了人一生中与不同对象(独处、伴侣、孩子、朋友、同事等)相处时间随年龄变化的曲线。图中最引人注目的是独处时间随年龄显著上升,以及与孩子相处的时间在 40 岁左右骤降。
为什么经久不衰:它用一张图直观呈现了现代生活中人际陪伴如何随年龄衰减,引发对孤独、家庭结构和社区设计的长期讨论,两次登上首页说明其话题持续引发共鸣。
HN 评论精选
战后以汽车为导向的城市规划加剧了老年人的孤独。
让我觉得震惊的是独处时间随年龄增长得有多快。原因很多,但尤其令人难过的是,这在很大程度上是我们建成环境造成的后果。如果你住在有多代同堂的村庄里,祖父母很容易每天参与村里的小事,比如照看四处玩耍的孩子。在以步行为主的传统城市街区也是如此。但二战以来世界各地的新建住宅大多围绕汽车和土地用途分离来规划,结果人老了以后住在一个远离日常生活的漂亮花园小屋里,一旦开车变得困难,就会大量时间独自一人。我觉得这没有简单的解决办法,这让我很难过。
burlesona查看英文原文
The thing that seems crazy to me is how much time alone increases with age. There are many many reasons for it, but one thing I think is especially sad is how much this is a consequence of our built environment. If you live in a village with multiple generations of a family around, it’s much easier for grandparents to be involved day too day in helping with little things in the village, especially keeping an eye on the kids roaming around. This is also true in the more traditional urban neighborhoods with walking-oriented life (safety from cars) and a wide mix of housing types etc. But (to varying degrees) most of the new construction around the world since WW2 has been oriented around driving and separation of land uses, and as a result when you age you end up living in a nice little garden home far removed from any day to day life going on. And once it gets hard for you to drive... then you really end up spending a ton of time alone. I don’t think there’s an easy fix for this, and that makes me sad.
与孩子相处时间在 40 岁骤降,解释了空巢期与中年危机的痛苦。
我根本不想要孩子。我不知道为什么'与孩子相处的时间'这条曲线如此刺痛我,但它确实刺痛了。它急剧上升,然后在 40 岁时骤降。这一定是个令人难以适应的转变。难怪这么多人难以应对'空巢'和中 年危机。
wing-_-nuts查看英文原文
I don't even want kids. I don't know why the 'time spent with one's children' line hurts so much, but it does. It sharply rises, before plummeting at age 40. That's got to be a jarring transition. No wonder so many folks have trouble with the 'empty nest' and mid-life crisis.
平均值掩盖了多峰分布,个人选择可以改变结局。
这里的基础数据当然是分布,我怀疑'平均'统计并不是这些分布的最佳代表。比如'孩子'肯定是双峰分布——很多没有孩子的人拉低了有孩子者的平均值。我怀疑实际上每个维度在每 个时间点都有多个众数,看众数会比看平均数更有意思。如果你相信自由意志,你大概可以选择自己最接近哪个众数。你并不是注定要落在统计上不太可能的中间低谷里。
gen220查看英文原文
The underlying data here is, of course, a distribution (each with its own distinct shape). In this case, I suspect that the "average" statistic is not the best representative of that distribution. For instance, "children" is definitely a bimodal distribution. There are many people in life who never have children, and therefore drag down the average for all those who do have children. I suspect that, in reality, there are many modes for each of these dimensions, at each point in time. I think seeing the modes would be more interesting than the averages. If you believe in free will, you can probably choose which mode you'll end up closest to. You certainly aren't doomed to be in some statistically-unlikely valley in-between. There's hope you won't die alone, in spite of what the picture painted by the average might say.
现代生活把相处时间给了最不在乎的人,背离了人类天性。
每次家庭度假,我都忍不住想我们如今的生活多么不自然。几千年来,我们基本上就是和家人住在一起、生活在家人周围。而现在我每年只能见到全家几天,有些表亲多年未见。我每天相处时间最多的人,恰恰是我最不在乎的人——同事和熟人。我没有解决办法,但我本能地知道这不该是生活的样子。
spaceman_2020查看英文原文
Whenever I have a family vacation, I can’t help but think how unnatural our present lives are. For thousands of years, we essentially just lived with and around family. Yet now I get to see my entire family for a few days every year. Some cousins I haven’t met in years. The people I spend the most time with everyday are also the people I care the least for - colleagues and acquaintances. I don’t have a solution. But I just know innately that this isn’t how things are supposed be.
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