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盯着电脑看的人们
People Staring at Computers
2021 — 2022，它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页（≥ 50 分）的那次投稿，空心点是没冲上去的投稿，点越大分数越高。
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艺术家 Kyle McDonald 的项目《People Staring at Computers》：他在苹果店用脚本拍摄盯着电脑的顾客照片并上传，引发苹果介入、电脑被查扣和一场关于监控、隐私与艺术边界的风波。页面记录了项目始末及作者事后的反思。
为什么经久不衰：它以真实案例呈现了监控、知情同意与艺术表达的冲突，苹果的过度反应反而放大了讨论，至今仍是隐私议题的经典参照。
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苹果的打压反而让项目获得了远超作者自身影响力的关注和讨论。
“如果苹果没有强烈谴责这个作品，它只会沦为 F.A.T. Lab 又一个速朽项目。但苹果让项目下线、没收了我的电脑，反而给了它我永远无法企及的关注度。记者用带引号的‘艺术家’惹恼了媒体艺术圈，审查和搜查令惹恼了言论自由派，隐私侵犯感则触怒了所有人。苹果制造了一场我永远策划不出来的精彩讨论。”
paxys查看英文原文
> In the end, if Apple hadn't so vehemently condemned the piece, it would have been resigned to live as just another quick F.A.T. Lab project, and part of my ongoing curiosity exploring computer-mediated interaction. But because they had the project taken offline, and my computer confiscated, Apple managed to give it more attention than I could have ever attracted. The reporters using headlines with "artist" in scare quotes got the media artists mad. The censorship and search warrant got the freedom of speech people mad. The feeling of privacy invasion, or just the awareness of surveillance, took care of everyone else. Apple created an amazing discussion I never could have planned. Sounds about right
作者未经同意拍摄并公开他人照片，事后还自我美化，这种态度令人不齿。
这让我想起《少数派报告》里那个杀人犯真诚地为自己辩解“我杀了他，但用最温和的方式”。作者对这种明显冒犯的行为毫无愧疚感，还把自己塑造成“本可以做得更糟所以算好人”的形象。他明确表示‘知情同意’这个概念很可笑——有道德的做法本可以是拍照后询问对方是否愿意公开，但他完全没考虑，而是用不道德且违法的方式把人当作自己好奇心的素材，再称之为‘艺术’。
i_dont_know_查看英文原文
This reminds me of a random, but chilling, scene in "Minority Report". The protagonist confronts a man he thinks is responsible for killing his child. The man decides to reassure the protagonist by explaining how kind he was to the child, and made sure the child didn't suffer when he killed him. He's presenting it as though this is a legitimate defense for such an obvious violation. The part that sticks with me is the man's seeming sincerity in believing he's making a case for himself, "yeah I did this horrible thing, but I did it in the nicest way possible so it's really kinda big of me if you think about it" This post fills me with the same chills. The author's utter lack of culpability for such a viscerally gross violation and strange attempts to spin it as though he's kind of a good person for doing it in a slightly less terrible way than he could have otherwise done it... To be clear, he didn't go out and do a security research project with ethical standards in place. He made it clear how laughable he considers the concept of 'consent' (an ethical way to do this might've been to take people's pictures, then ask them if they were OK with sharing it right after. He doesn't consider such a process at all) Instead, he thought of an amoral and illegal way for him to use people without their consent, for his own pleasure, curiosity, and amusement and decided to call it 'art'. There are more horrible ways he could have done the above, sure. But that argument to me sounds as hollow as the "but he didn't suffer" argument from the movie. Him expressing his own sense of magnanimousness and ironic sense of victimhood at the end of it... it really is a scary glimpse into the mind of such people. It's sad because it's very easy to misconstrue this as a "security researcher gets feds sent on him by apple" story, and I think lots of people are basically trying to frame it that way, but it's not that at all. To me, it's clearly "jackass doesn't understand consent, apple calls the feds, still a jackass, still doesn't understand". [Note: yes I know the character in the movie is revealed as a bluff shortly after, the scene sticks with me because of the character's apparent sincerity at the moment] [Additional Note: yes I know many of these companies also don't respect consent. Them not respecting it is not an excuse for everyone to behave the same way.]
人们对线下被拍照的愤怒远超对线上大规模监控的漠视，这种反差很值得深思。
最奇怪的是，人们对未经许可被拍照有强烈的本能反感，却对网络行为追踪几乎无感。一张公共场所的随机照片能造成什么伤害？可很少有人对 Google 存下你输入的每个搜索词、Apple 在服务器上存下你发给亲人的每条消息有同样的反应。我们接受最私密的想法被捕获、分析、出售，却为一张匿名照片愤怒。
yarcob查看英文原文
The most curious thing about this project is how people seem to have a visceral reaction to having photos of them made without their permission; but having their activity tracked online hardly evokes the same reaction. It's weird. What harm is a random picture of my face in public going to do? But still some people worry so much about that. Whereas only very few people show the same reaction to the fact that Google stores a copy of every word you typed into their search field ever. Or that Apple stores a copy of every message I have sent to a loved one with my phone on their servers. We accept that our most private thoughts are being captured, analyzed, sold; but the outrage is about someone taking an anonymous photo of us in a public setting.
作品和作者虽显做作，但叙事引人入胜、发人深省。
我很喜欢读这篇。这位艺术家显得自命不凡但有自知之明，讨人厌却很会讲故事。其中的艺术和哲学结论既过时老套又发人深省，让人又恼火又兴奋又安心。我不知道该怎么评价它，但庆幸有作者这样的人存在。
Bakary查看英文原文
I thoroughly enjoyed reading this. The artist seems pretentious, but self-aware. Annoying, but a great storyteller. The art and philosophical conclusions involved are dated and cliché but thought provoking at the same time. It's irritating, exciting, and comforting all at once. I don't know what to make of it but I'm glad that people like the author exist.
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