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从留声机唱片照片中提取音频
Extracting Audio from Pictures of Gramophone Recordings
2013 — 2018,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
导读
这篇文章介绍如何从留声机录音的照片中恢复声音:通过扫描唱片沟槽的图像,再做图像处理和信号重建,把静止图像变回可听的音频。文中给出了历史录音的复原示例,并讨论了分辨率、噪声和保存介质等限制。
为什么经久不衰:它把看似只剩图像的旧录音重新变成声音,展示了信号处理与媒体考古的巧妙结合,所以多年后仍会被反复提起。
HN 评论精选
赞叹从照片恢复音频,并由此追问信息论、分辨率与二维编码的存储极限。
这真是个好黑客技巧!这就是我读 HN 的原因,不是为了某些 Arrington 的八卦。我原本想不到留声机纹路的照片里还留有足够数据来重建音频。这让我想到香农定理——我的猜测本来会是错的,所以我想知道到底错得多离谱。要用多少最小分辨率(dpi)才能存下比如 1 分钟 8Hz 的音频?有没有简单算法做粗略估算?1880 年左右印刷机的分辨率是多少,从而知道一页纸能为后人“存”多少音频?图里有很多文字,显然浪费了很多空间。我还想,能不能做二维条码来存未压缩 wav 音频,可能更抗噪,但只是因为像“更低分辨率”,更不容易被破坏。这又回到香农。我不搞音频处理,但这引出很多问题,今晚我要边喝咖啡边想。这就是我爱的那种文章。
guylhem查看英文原文
Well that's a good hack!! that's why I read HN, not for some Arrington story. I wouldn't have guessed there was enough data left in the picture of the gramophone track to recreate audio from it. Which makes me think about Shannon theorem - my guesses would have been wrong, so I wonder just "how wrong". What would the minimal resolution (dpi) be to store say 1 minute of audio at 8Hz? Would there be an easy way to calculate that (just a back of the envelope calculation, to get a rough idea) What was the resolution of the printing press ca 1880, to know how much audio could have been "stored" in a single page for posterity? In the picture there is a lot of text, so obviously a lot of lost space. And I wonder how we could make 2d barcodes to store uncompressed wav audio, which might be more resistant to noise, but only because it'll be like a "lower resolution", ie less easily disruptible. Which leads me back to Shannon. I'm not into audio processing but that raises a lot of questions I'll be pondering over with some coffee tonight (obligatory xkcd reference- http://xkcd.com/356/) That's the kind of article I love :-) EDIT: downvotes, whatever. Haters gonna hate. I'll have some hours of fun thanks to this article anyway!
感叹技术让后人可能从意想不到的载体重放过去。
令人脑洞大开。它让我停下来想:未来世代能通过天知道什么机制,重放我们今天日常生活的多少影像?对血液和头发做 DNA 检测是另一个例子。
auctiontheory查看英文原文
Mind-blowing. It does give me pause to wonder how much of the movie of our day-to-day lives future generations will be able to replay, via goodness knows what mechanism. (DNA testing of blood and hair is another example of this theme.)
对照原文有助于听清复原录音,并感叹能听到百年前朗读。
一边听一边对照链接的席勒《手套》德文原文,对我帮助极大,能把语音从噪声里分辨出来(至少对我这个德语初学者如此)。能听到那么久以前的发明家朗诵诗歌的咬字,太神奇了。
tokenadult查看英文原文
Following along while listening by looking at the linked German text of "Der Handschuh" http://www.has.vcu.edu/for/schiller/handschuh_dual.html helps immensely in sorting out the speech from the noise (at least for me, with my beginner's knowledge of German). It's amazing to hear the inventor's poetry reading diction from so long ago.
提到另一项把音频渲染成唱片图像再还原的研究。
相关:把一个音频文件渲染成逼真的黑胶唱片图像,再从图像恢复音频:http://www.renderman.org/RMR/Examples/srt2011/audiblyPlausibleRendering.pdf
lcrs查看英文原文
related, render an audio file as an photoreal image of a vinyl record, then recover the audio from that image: http://www.renderman.org/RMR/Examples/srt2011/audiblyPlausibleRendering.pdf
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