思考与写作theguardian.com
新闻对你有害
News is bad for you
2013 — 2018,它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页(≥ 50 分)的那次投稿,空心点是没冲上去的投稿,点越大分数越高。
导读
这是《卫报》2013 年刊登的一篇评论,作者 Rolf Dobelli 主张:新闻对读者几乎没有好处,而且有害。他列举的理由包括:新闻与你的生活无关、容易误导、无用、损害健康、扼杀创造力。文章引发了持续多年的争论:有人认为它点破了现代人的“信息过食”,也有人指出其论证粗糙,观点其实源自 Nassim Taleb。
为什么经久不衰:它提前十年预言了信息过载与“信息节食”问题,而且无论你赞同还是反对,都能借它重新审视自己每天消费新闻的习惯。
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文章观点并非原创,作者有抄袭塔勒布的争议。
我认同这个观点,但 Rolf Dobelli 本人就是个剽窃者。这套论证基本上是从 Nassim Taleb 那里偷来的。
oskarth查看英文原文
While I agree with the sentiment, Rolf Dobelli himself is a plagiarist. This whole reasoning is basically stolen from Nassim Taleb. http://fooledbyrandomness.com/dobelli.htm http://blog.chabris.com/2013/09/similarities-between-rolf-dobellis-book.html EDIT: For another take on not reading the news, see http://www.aaronsw.com/weblog/hatethenews
关键在新闻来源的质量,文章的“更幸福”式医学断言缺乏依据。
新闻是否有害,很大程度上取决于来源。我不看电视,但会用 Google News 训练它多给我推荐来自多元信源、经过专业报道和编辑的长文。文章声称放弃读新闻会让人更幸福,这是医学主张,却没有可靠的医学来源支撑,我认为这是胡扯:作者只是在为新书做宣传,通篇是缺乏细微差别的笼统断言。
tokenadult查看英文原文
Whether news is bad for you or not probably depends more than a little on what the source is. I don't watch television—for years our TV was in a box in a closet, brought out mostly just for watching the Olympics. But I do look at Google News and try to train it to give me mostly long-form suggestions about science and world issues from diverse sources with professional reporting and editing. That helps. The claim that giving up reading news will make you happier is a medical claim in the article that is not backed up by reliable medical sources,[1] so I call baloney on that. The newspaper opinion writer here (promoting his new book with excerpts from the book) doesn't report the issue the way a competent reporter would report it, but just makes a bunch of broad general statements with no nuance. In other words, the medical claims about happier human life in the article are just like the made-up opinions we can all easily find on the Internet, and the article stands as an example of how we can find blatantly misleading "information" inside or outside the professional news media. I have no reason to suppose that the full-length book is a medically reliable source (the publisher of the book is identified at the end of the article). Anecdote alert: I'm a curious person and I like to learn, and so one of the reasons I come here to Hacker NEWS is to find out new facts about the external world that I didn't know before, including facts about current events ("news" in the narrow sense). My personal experience—which, to be sure, may differ from yours—is that I am a happier and more productive person when I know, from good sources, what is going on all over the world and the broader context of expanding human knowledge. But I'm sure you can find an opinion column somewhere based on a popular book with a different opinion from mine. AFTER EDIT: Good catch! Another participant here on HN noticed that the author of the article kindly submitted here has credibly been accused of plagiarism by more than one published author who works harder than he does. I upvoted that comment for what it added to our understanding of the article's background. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:MEDRS
折中方案:用低频、聚合、可筛选的周刊替代每日新闻流。
如果还没准备好完全关掉新闻,可以改用每周或每月一次的新闻源。我除了 HN 之外的所有新闻都来自《经济学人》音频版:每周一期,开头几分钟概述一周的商业和政治大事,其余文章都是对一周事件的回顾与更大趋势的分析。音频版尤其适合做家务或通勤时听,还可以只订阅自己关心的栏目。
JeffJenkins查看英文原文
For anyone who isn't ready to completely turn off the news spigot, consider switching to a weekly (or monthly) source of news. I get all of my (non-HN) news from The Economist's audio edition. It's released weekly and they have a section right at the start about big things happening in business/politics around the world in the last week. It's no more than a couple minutes to scan, and 10-20 in normal speed audio. The rest of the articles are at least one step back (since they summarize a week of what's happened). Many others are looking at some larger event or trend, sometimes with a recent event/anecdote as a lead in. I like the audio edition in particular since I can put it on while I'm doing chores or commuting and I'll pick up bits and pieces even if I'm not fully paying attention. I can also have only the sections I care about included, which lets me skip the ones I really don't care about.
戒掉每日新闻后心理状态明显改善,媒体放大负面扭曲了对现实的认知。
我的经历和这篇文章吻合。持续的负面新闻让我抑郁,于是我戒掉了每日新闻和社交媒体,感觉非常好;有点讽刺的是,我十年前还做过 Google News 的团队负责人。现在我仍每周读《经济学人》、偶尔上 HN、从朋友那里听说重要事件,但不必再承受媒体演化出的那种持续灾难轰炸。退一步看,才发现新闻有多毒:我们处在历史上犯罪率最低、医疗水平最高、失业率和贫困率最低的社会,可你只看典型媒体报道绝不会这么想。
chris_va查看英文原文
Anecdotally, my experience lines up with this article. I was getting depressed with the constant negativity, so cut out daily news, social media, etc. I have to admit, it's pretty wonderful. And somewhat ironic, given that I used to be the TL of Google News 10 years ago. I still read The Economist weekly, come to HN occasionally, and hear about important/local/political events from friends. I don't, however, have to hear the constant doom bombardment that the media has evolved to produce. Stepping back really highlights how toxic the news can be. We live in a society with the lowest crime rate, highest levels of healthcare, lowest unemployment rate, and lowest levels of poverty in all of history. Access to the internet and globalization has made people (real people, not the loudest selected subset you see in media) genuinely care about each other everywhere in the world I have traveled. Yet you would never think that just looking at typical media. It isn't a perfect society, and horrible situations still exist that deserve attention, but that will always be true. We still have enormous strides we can make, and that struggle is an important aspect of our society, especially in defending against erosions of personal freedoms. Honestly, though, we are doing really well compared with 100 years ago.
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