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对 TempleOS 的建设性审视
A Constructive Look at TempleOS
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这篇文章以建设性的视角审视 TempleOS：不把它只当成奇人奇事，而是当作一个可供研究、能提供设计启发的操作系统。文中讨论了它的单用户交互环境、DolDoc 超文本等特性，并把这些理念与主流 OS 的设计选择相对照。评论还延伸到 Lisp Machine 式环境、HolyC 开发体验，以及对作者论证是否公平的争论。
为什么经久不衰：TempleOS 是一个从零构建、极端个人化的系统，它持续提醒人们操作系统架构并非只有主流一条路，其中 DolDoc 等想法今天仍能激发讨论。
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TempleOS 的架构类似 Lisp Machine，REPL、图形 shell 和热编译等理念在主流 OS 的谱系中很难重现。
虽然很多人不熟悉，但这与旧时的 Lisp Machine 环境高度相似。那些环境同样与先前的 OS 彻底断裂：有强大的 REPL 可调用应用、内联工具或直接命令；有由鼠标可交互图形组件构成的交互式 shell，直接打印到屏幕；源代码可直接编译进运行中的镜像，等等。它们也是单用户，但同样做网络；远程登录的人可以在自己的上下文里获得同样的交互图形会话。考虑到 50 到 80 年代的计算史，这种桌面架构想法对很多人来说很自然。但主流 OS 都有自己的祖传谱系，阻碍了重大反思；另一个问题是这些想法至少是面向高级用户的。移动市场对 UI 做过重大反思，但底层仍是 *nix 启发的后代，而且只向用户暴露预烘焙应用。
white-flame查看英文原文
While not very familiar to many, this is highly similar to the old Lisp Machine environments. Those were similarly a clean break from prior OSes, with: - a powerful REPL to call either apps, inline tools, or direct commands - interactive shells made up of mouse-interactable graphical components being printed to the screen - compilation of source code directly into the running image etc. They were also single-user, but did networking as well. People logged into a machine remotely could have the same interactive graphical sessions in their own context. Given the history of computing from the 50s - 80s, this desktop architecture idea comes naturally to a lot of people. The major OSes, however, all have their ancestral lineage which prevents major rethinking. But another issue is that these ideas are at least power-user oriented. While the mobile market did some major rethinks about the UIs, they're still *nix inspired descendants underneath, and don't expose anything but pre-baked applications to their users.
以研究型 OS 的视角看 TempleOS 很有启发，DolDoc 等理念值得用现代设计重新演绎。
好文章。我很喜欢这种开放心态——“一切都能教我们点什么”。我不确定自己真想用 TempleOS，但如果像文章建议的那样把它看作研究型 OS，这里很多想法非常吸引人。DolDoc 听起来是我今天就想拥有的东西。我有点好奇，如果这些想法经过更现代设计理念的过滤，会创造出什么？
bane查看英文原文
Great article. I really like this kind of open-minded "everything can teach us something" attitude. I'm not sure I really want to use TemplOS, but if you look at it as a research OS like the article suggests, lots of the ideas here are very compelling. DolDoc sounds like something I wish I had today. I kind of wonder what could be created if these ideas were filtered through more modern design ideas?
实际用 HolyC 为 TempleOS 开发程序是一种独特体验。
顺便说一句，我几年前用 HolyC 为 TempleOS 写了一个 Julia 集探索器，绝对是有趣的经历！代码在 https://github.com/pcorey/julia-templeos。
pcorey查看英文原文
FWIW, I wrote a Julia Set explorer in HolyC for TempleOS a couple years back. It was definitely an interesting experience! https://github.com/pcorey/julia-templeos
评论者认为 Davis 本人拒绝批评，因此文章关于人们未公平对待他的论点有失公允。
文章提出的论点并不完全公平。虽然很多人一上来就否定 Davis，但我也见过其他人公平对待他的想法，竭力给他可信度。Davis 怎么回应？他顽固拒绝一切批评，无论多么有理。我看他在论坛上兜圈子好多页，人们温和地建议一些容易的改进。和往常一样，很难把精神疾病和人分开。但说人们没有尝试公平地与 Davis 交流，是完全不诚实的；作者在提出这个说法前应该先试试。
brian-armstrong查看英文原文
The argument put forth in this article is not being entirely fair. Although there are many people who are instantly dismissive of Davis, I've seen others give him a fair engagement on his ideas. They bend over backwards to give him some credibility. How does Davis respond to this? He stubbornly refuses any and all crticism, no matter how leveled it is. I've watched him go in circles for pages in forums where people modestly suggest easy improvements to his design. As always, it's a little hard to separate out the mental illness from the person. But to say people don't attempt to engage Davis fairly is flatly disingenuous, and I think the author ought to try it before making that claim.
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