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我怀念旧日的互联网
I Miss the Old Internet
2019 — 2021，它一次次回到首页
黑点是上首页（≥ 50 分）的那次投稿，空心点是没冲上去的投稿，点越大分数越高。
导读
这篇随笔怀念上世纪90年代至2000年代初的“旧互联网”：个人主页、手工编写的小站、没有广告和内容营销的开放网络。作者感叹如今的网络被企业化的“内容营销”和封闭平台占据，失去了当年的个人色彩与探索乐趣。
为什么经久不衰：它道出了许多人对去商业化、个人化网络的持久乡愁，而 RSS、个人建站等旧传统至今仍是可行的替代路径，因此多年后仍能引发共鸣。
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旧网络死于围墙花园比开放协议更赚钱，真人内容已被营销内容淹没
我大体同意。我常在搜索词后面加上"reddit"，因为虽然它不完美，但reddit是少数还能读到真人想法的地方。如今网上几乎所有内容都像是去个性化的企业"内容营销"博客：留下邮箱，我们给你发PDF（外加一整套邮件营销）。旧互联网消失，是因为建围墙花园比发展RSS这样的开放分发协议更赚钱，我看不出有什么出路。
notJim查看英文原文
I generally agree. I've taken to appending "reddit" to many of my search queries, because flawed though it is, reddit is one of the few places you can read an actual human thought. It feels like nearly all content on the internet is some de-personalized corporate "content marketing" blog at this point. Just give us your email address and we'll send you a PDF (and a drip marketing campaign.) I think the old internet went away because it was more profitable to create a walled garden distribution channel than it was to develop a syndication protocol like email or rss. I honestly don't see any way around this.
旧互联网并未消失，动手自建网站、用RSS就能找回它
旧互联网还在，而且还在生长，只是被厚厚一层企业垃圾网站盖住了。你要做的就是成为你想看到的改变：在家自建网站、手写代码、不用JavaScript前端。至于找到同好，装个RSS阅读器，每次看到喜欢的文章就查查该站有没有RSS源，很快你就能摆脱内容聚合器，重新把网络当作一个社区。
superkuh查看英文原文
The old internet is still there, it's still growing. It's just covered in a thick layer of corporate shit sites. All you have to do is be the change you want to see. Start hosting your website from home. Code it by hand. Don't use any javascript frontends. It's a good time. As for finding others, well, HN isn't a bad place to start. Just install an RSS reader client and every time you find yourself enjoying an article check the site to see if it has an RSS feed. In fact, do this with every web interaction. Pretty soon you can completely decouple yourself from content aggregators and start perceiving the web as a community again.
别只怀旧：现代互联网让生活便利得多，旧网络也仍以各种形式存在
我不怀念那些要邮寄纸质表格和支票、跑银行、等28天、排队、打电话办事的日子。想想没有网络时怎么买车险、订机票、报税？现代互联网彻底改变了生活。旧网站有些其实还留在原服务器和原网址上——这些20年无人问津却仍有人付费维持的"幽灵船"服务器挺有意思的。dat、gopher和ipfs上仍有大量随性的个人主页。
mattlondon查看英文原文
I don't miss the days when you had to physically send a paper form with a cheque or postal order, go to a bank, wait 28 days for things to be delivered, stand in line at a post office, or phone someone up to get mundane stuff done. Can you imagine sorting out car insurance quotes or booking flights/hotels or doing your tax return without the internet? What a ballache! The modern internet has been utterly transformative and has made modern life so much easier and simpler. Don't forget about all the useful things you take for granted now that weren't possible then because the internet wasn't commercialised at the time. The old internet is still there, some if it actually physically still there - i.e. still on the server/URL it was on back in the day (I find this kinda cool in a way - these sort of mary-celeste servers ticking away somewhere, untouched for 20 years but someone still cares enough to pay to keep it running). Perhaps less people make their own websites these days, but there is still a thriving and still-as-useless ("not much yet - check back soon!") collection of random personal websites on dat, gopher and ipfs. Stumbling onto these things or hearing about them via word of mouth/keyboard was always part of the joy of 90s internet.
怀念的是旧网络的组织性：如今内容难找、网页易朽、多媒体退化
我只是怀念"有组织"。现在一切都乱糟糟：内容要么是无限滚动，要么只能靠搜索框找，你根本分不清是网站没有你要的内容还是你搜索词不对。对CDN和跨站内容的依赖让网页过期得比以往更快、更难存档。多媒体也大不如前——二十年前常见文字、声音、图片、视频整合在一起、易于导航的呈现方式，现在只剩嵌入图片的网页或难以导航的视频。
Causality1查看英文原文
I just miss organization. Everything feels like a mess now. Content is either in an endless scroll or it's only accessible through a search box and you have absolutely no idea whether the site doesn't have the content you wanted or if you just failed to use the correct terms. Increased reliance on CDNs and cross-site content has simultaneously made web pages expire faster than ever and made them harder to archive. Multimedia is also a shadow of what it once was. Twenty years ago it was common for material to be presented in a way that integrated text, sound, pictures, and video together in an easily navigable way. A page on, say, Lewis and Clark would offer you an audio introduction, an interactive map that brought up text journal entries for clickable points of interest, and relevant pictures. Now your only option is a web page with embedded pictures which may as well be a paper encyclopedia entry, or a video that may or may not offer you any useful way to navigate it aside from jumping around at random and most certainly doesn't give you rich annotations throughout.
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